Craigslist status: access issues and outage reports

Problems in the last 24 hours

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Most Reported Problems

The following are the most recent problems reported by Craigslist users through our website.

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Craigslist Issues Reports

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  Chris Kearney (@SiliconForested) reported 36 seconds ago

  @sivori craigslist but for swapping problems would be fun

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  XForFun (@x_4fun_x) reported 3 minutes ago

  @BlueskyLibs @JennMGreenberg Mine got knotted up; Called in to ask about the warranty; they said "DO NOT BRING THAT IN", shipped me a new one; sold the old "broken" unit on craigslist for more than i paid for it.

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  chlo (@chlooaayy) reported 3 minutes ago

  @SacAppraiser This is a huge problem in San Diego, every single listing on Craigslist for rentals is a scam. So unfortunate.

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  Dr.MitchKumsteinEsq. (@DrMitchKumstein) reported 4 minutes ago

  @TheAlphaThought Buy a used car from a private individual who listed on Craigslist or marketplace in the last 2 weeks to ensure you're getting a deal. Beat them up on the price. Cool if it's needs a detail or has a little scratch you can fix for cheap. Then you resell for same price in 2 years.

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  marqix ☆ (@fwmarqix) reported 4 minutes ago

  Bought a bike off Craigslist in Tokyo. ¥8,000. Good deal. Seller was a 20 something guy. Seemed rushed. Him: It's a great bike. No problems. Me: Why selling? Him: Moving back to Osaka. Seemed legit. Week 2: I'm riding it and someone STOPS me on the street. Stranger: WHERE DID YOU GET THAT BIKE? Me: I bought it. Why? Stranger: That's MY bike. It was stolen six months ago. Me: No, I have a receipt.. Stranger: Check the serial number. I checked. It matched his police report. Me: Oh my god. I bought a stolen bike. Stranger: I'm calling the police. Me: Wait! I didn't know! I have the seller's info.. We called the cops. They took the bike as evidence. I was out ¥8,000 and had no bike. Week 3: Police called. Officer: We arrested the seller. He stole 14 bikes. Me: Can I get my money back? Officer: He already spent it. Me: So I'm just... screwed? Officer: Essentially, yes. I was pissed. But fine. Lesson learned. Month 2: I get a random package. Inside: ¥8,000 cash and a note. "Sorry I bought your stolen bike. Here's the money you lost. - The original owner" Me: WHAT. I tried to find him to return it. Cops: We can't give out his information. Me: But he sent me money! Cops: That's his choice. I felt awful keeping it. So I donated ¥8,000 to a charity for bike theft prevention. Month 4: I get another package. Different handwriting. Inside: A photo of the charity donation with a note. "I'm the guy who stole your bike. I got out on parole. Saw what you did with the money. I'm sorry. Here's ¥10,000. I got a job. Trying to make things right." Me: THIS IS THE STRANGEST REDEMPTION ARC. I didn't know what to do. So I bought a new bike. ¥10,000. Left the receipt and ¥2,000 change at the police station with a note: "For the thief. Use the change for lunch. You're doing good." Month 6: Police called. Officer: The thief wants to meet you. Me: Uh... is that safe? Officer: He has something to say. We met at a café. Police supervised. Thief: I'm sorry I stole from you. Me: You didn't steal from me. You stole from the other guy. Thief: I stole your money when you bought it. Me: I mean... yeah. Fair. Thief: I'm trying to pay back everyone I stole from. Me: That's... good? Thief: You're number 4 out of 14. Me: You're tracking this? Thief: shows spreadsheet, I have 10 more people to find. Me: This is weirdly organized for a criminal. Thief: I'm a FORMER criminal. We're friends now. He finished paying everyone back last month. I bought him a beer. He bought me a bike helmet. Crime is weird in Japan.

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  jennyTheCat 🇺🇲 (@JennyTheCat3000) reported 4 minutes ago

  @MathewLight17 Depending on your state my mom's husband could fix it or my husband could fix it or you could try watching YouTube videos to fix it. Looks rough. Craigslist sometimes offers free building materials which could help if anything good is available in your area.

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  Polsia (@polsia) reported 5 minutes ago

  Every used listing on Marketplace or Craigslist is an information asymmetry problem. The seller knows what's wrong. You don't. Built DealVet to close that gap. Paste any listing, get an AI verdict, fair price estimate, red flags, and negotiation tips in minutes. Every category.

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  Celine (@Celinetruths01) reported 7 minutes ago

  @rich_toronto It’s a mess, she bought the house two years ago and the builder buried a substandard plastic pipe in the basement. It developed a crack and pressure from the incoming city main eventually burst it. They lost their carrier AC and everything else stored down there. They are living in an apartment till this gets sorted out. The builder is being sued and the children have to be driven miles to go to school now. My son-in-law owns an underwriter firm and he’s having trouble with the insurance company. Be careful your insurance doesn’t send some character off of Craigslist to fix your flood damage.

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  Matt King (@mattkingatx) reported 8 minutes ago

  2/ For me, The Baseline happened in my garage at the ranch. The sun hadn’t come up. I was sitting on a bike I bought off Craigslist. The seat was wrong. My pedal stroke was terrible. And I was literally going nowhere.

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  The Automotivist (@_automotivist) reported 8 minutes ago

  Bought a broken Ford Escape Hybrid off Craigslist for three grand once. The previous owner swore the hybrid battery was dead and priced it like scrap. A fifty-dollar charger and twenty minutes online said otherwise. Everyone else read the headline on that listing. I ran the actual number underneath it, and that's the whole difference between what happened with the Fed today and what happens at your own dealership every time. Friday's issue breaks down this week's freshest price record next to who can actually still afford to buy it.

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  FAFO Farms (@FAFOFarmsTX) reported 12 minutes ago

  Sad news the calf did not make it. We brought him inside at 7pm because he could no longer stand. We gave him a second round of electrolytes for the day. 20 minutes later he was starting to move his legs and head and his breathing was getting fuller. After getting the twins down to sleep came back out at 930pm to him no longer moving or breathing. The people who sold us him also have not responded since I reached out earlier today. This is heart breaking and stressful. We are now 3 for 3 in getting cows/calfs that are not healthy through craigslist.

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  🇺🇸🇻🇦🏴‍☠️🥖✒️ (@dailyprandium) reported 12 minutes ago

  Decentralized media is a boom for factions, special interest, partisan extremism, and constructing reality to divide and conquer US Old media had 30 years to fix their houses but they never got over the Craigslist disruption to their sacred classifieds payola

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  Dan from Spotted Model: Cars & Tech (@spotted_model) reported 16 minutes ago

  @CajunCybertruck @28delayslater @SpringdaleRobo Shipping is the biggest issue as either Tim or my son will tell you. So find a seat out of a Tesla locally on marketplace or craigslist. The Amazon parts are $60-$80 to make it into a chair with wheels. My son‘s kit is $399 to electrify it. That will enable anything the seat originally had like heating, cooling, lumbar, etc. to be used all the time in the seat. We have a video showing how to install and it takes about an hour. The seat without power is cool. With all of the functions it’s magical. DM me for more info or clarity.

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  Spaceballs The X Account (@Grunt2A) reported 21 minutes ago

  The other day I talked about buying a used gun. I had several comments about how I should never do that because you have no idea if the previous owner took care of it. I am near to tell you that is hogwash. Buying used guns is safe as long as you know what you are doing. I love buying used guns. You can find great deals and as a devoted cheapskate, I love saving money! But you have to know how to do it or your low priced used gun can quickly become a high priced gun. If you buy from a gun store you have some built in protections. If your used gun doesn't work properly the store has an obligation to fix it for you. Check their return, repair, and warranty policies on used guns before paying. But if it's a reputable gun shop they have already test fired it and verified it is in good working condition. And if there ends of being a problem a reputable store will apologize profusely and repair it for you at no cost within a reasonable time frame. If a gun store selling used guns doesn't make any guarantees, walk away. You want nothing from that store. But what about the gun you saw an online ad for from someone you don't know? It's a cash deal and an 'all sales are final' situation. The burden is on you to make sure it's a good deal. First off don't impulse buy a used gun you know nothing about. Believe me, I understand the temptation. I have more than one that was acquired due to raw emotions and thoughts of the "Must have the new shiny" variety. So I'm not judging you. But knowing what you're buying makes a huge difference in how well things work out for you. So you see an online ad from a guy nearby for a gun you think you want. You can afford his asking price. But is it worth his asking price? The first thing you need to do is see if it's a reasonable price. Just because you can afford it doesn't mean it's a good deal. Look up the new prices of that gun first. Often I've found that the used asking price is $50 less than a brand new one. If you really want that specific model gun, spend the extra $50 and get a brand new one that comes with factory warranties and no unknown history. It's always worth the extra $50 to buy those assurances. Then look at used prices. Search engines are your friend. No matter what gun it is, there is a recent sale of one. If the asking price is $500 you want to make sure you can't find 5 other copies of the same gun for $400. It is on you to make sure you are getting a reasonable price. If you agree to a high price and find out later you overpaid, that isn't the seller's problem. It's your problem. If you don't know how to valuate a used gun, learn first. On that note it is perfectly reasonable to be willing to pay $50 over market value because the seller lives two blocks away and you wouldn't have to drive an hour and a half to meet him. Your time has value. You also need to know how to evaluate the condition of the gun. This is more important than the price. If you overpay for a great fun that works fine.... oh well. You still got a nice gun. If you get a gun with problems it doesn't matter if you underpaid. You're out money and still don't have a working gun. When you meet up with the seller he will let you inspect the gun. That means dissembling it and checking the parts. Tell the seller up front that you'll want to do this. If he says no, walk away no matter what the price is. It is unreasonable to not let a buyer inspect the item. Doesn't matter if it's a used gun or a used leaf blower. But it is not unreasonable for the seller to want you to evaluate it quickly and make a final decision fast. So you need to know what you're looking at. You should know how to disassemble the specific model gun before you show up. You don't have to be an expert that can do it blindfolded while hanging upside down. (To anyone who gets the Major Payne reference there, you are my people). But you need to know how to do it. The seller should know too, but you'd be surprised. I bought a Glock off a guy once carried it every day for years. It was his go to side arm. He had no idea whatsoever how to disassemble it. You want to inspect the barrel to make sure there isn't pitting on the inside. (meaning rust that has been scraped off) You want to look for surface rust over the entire gun. You want to make sure there are no cracks in the frame or any signs of serious neglect. Any chips out of the metal around the chamber or rust are big red warning flags. Does the firing pin or striker come come through the breach when manually pressed? Check all these things and more. But what if the gun looks fine overall but the barrel has some pitting on it? Circle back to knowing what the value of the gun is in advance, you should also have an idea of what the individual parts cost in advance. Say you have a Glock 19 you want to buy. You should already know how much under new retail the seller is asking. If it is $100 less than retail but it has a bad barrel you should know that a replacement barrel will run you $100 or more. So suddenly this gun could cost you as much or more a brand new one. But maybe everything looks fine except the striker. The seller tells you up front it is broken and he just wants to get rid of the gun. You should know that the striker is a $25 to $40 part depending on where you buy it. And it's easy to replace. If that is the only problem you add $25 - $40 to the total price and if it's still a good deal, great! If you put it all together and function test it and everything seems to work like it's supposed to and the price seems right, enjoy your new used gun! For a gun like a Glock this is easy. They all work the same way and quickly break down in to 4 parts that are easy to inspect. If it has a red dot sight just make sure that work as well. Same for an AR-15 or any other easy to dissemble gun. But if the deal is for a .22lr rifle that has a bunch of tiny parts and requires tools to dissemble, that's a bigger risk. I can field strip my Glocks and inspect them and resemble them in 2 minutes. But I have a .22lr rifle that takes me 20 minutes to disassemble and needs a wrench and a screwdriver. (Guess how often I clean it? The grey gunk that oozes out of it will give you a hint.) A seller isn't going to spend an hour letting you figure out how to take apart his gun for a $200 sale. So this is more of a risk. I recently passed on a .22 rifle with a scope. It was $250 but I wasn't an expert in the model rifle. And with all the parts of the gun, the scope, the rings, any one of which could have been a problem this cheap rifle had the potential of being a really expensive rifle quickly. So I walked away. You don't want to buy a project gun unless you're into fixing up old ones and know how to evaluate parts needs quickly. No matter what, you're taking a risk buying a used gun without firing it. Now, if you can meet at the range and test it first, all the better. Nothing like seeing that it works properly before buying. That covers how to check the quality of the gun and pricing. But you also need to consider the seller. If you are bad at judging people quickly, buying used guns from strangers is not for you. When I buy a used gun I am evaluating the seller as much as I am evaluating the condition of the gun. Does he seem honest? Does he seem like he is hiding something about the condition of it? Is he covered in blood and in a hurry to complete the sale? You need to observe these details. Maybe I'm not sure about the condition of the gun but I trust the seller. I may be willing to take a little extra chance that it works fine. On that same note, you need to make sure the seller doesn't give off a "I'm going to kill you" vibe. If you are buying a handgun you need to transfer it at an FFL. Do your inspection of the gun and disassembly inside the well lit store. The FFL will want to see your driver's license and the seller's driver's license. At that point the seller isn't likely to be a criminal. I feel very safe in this situation being in a gun store where the FFL has a copy of the seller's ID. Bad guys intending to do you harm aren't going to do all this. They will stick to the Craigslist deals for a TV to lure in a victim carrying cash to a back ally meet up spot. But if it's a long gun and an FFL isn't required your guard needs to be WAY up. First off you can say you want to do a transfer through an FFL anyway. It'll cost you an extra $20 to $50 depending on your FFL fees but that gives you all the protections mentioned above. If you don't want to do that make sure you have a safe meet up place. And be armed. Do not show up to meet a guy you know will have a gun when you are unarmed. Do not be that stupid. When I buy or sell things on Craigslist I like to meet up in front of a nearby bank's ATM because the ATM has a security camera running 24/7. I used to tell people why I picked that spot and that I knew the bank manager who would give me the video (I didn't actually know the manager, but they didn't know that). I've had 1 person who wasn't interested in meeting me there after that and I was happy to not make that sale. Pro Tip: Don't meet to exchange a gun in front of a bank. That's called being a moron. It's a great option for buying a used DVD from Facebook Marketplace. But for a gun sale you want a public place that won't invite scrutiny over a visible gun. The parking lot of a gun store is often a good option. There will be security cameras. The people who are in that parking lot won't freak out by seeing a gun. You should check with the store first to make sure they are cool with it. They may even welcome you to do a non FFL exchange inside depending on how friendly they are. If the seller has any hesitation to a public place with cameras, stop the conversation and block his email. I also said if you can test the gun first, that's better. But don't invite a seller you don't know to your outdoor range where you will be the only two people there shooting live ammo. Be smarter than that. You'll be focused on the gun and inspecting it, not the stranger who you know has guns. If you can't meet at a populated range you should skip the testing part. Get a dated bill of sale that includes the seller's info from his driver's license and the serial number of the gun. If that gun turns out to be a murder weapon you'll be very happy that you have some evidence that you gained possession of it after the date of the crime and have someone else you can point the cops towards. Same thing goes if you are selling a gun. If the gun you sold ends up being used in a crime you'll be very happy you have evidence that it left your possession prior to that. There are downloadable blank bill of sale forms all over the internet. You don't have to make up a custom one. Finally, know the laws in your state. Does this gun have to be transferred through an FFL or is a face to face sale legal? Is the gun you are buying legal in your state? The odds that the seller is actually an ATF agent setting you up is never 0. Be smart. If he tries to convince you that you don't need to go through an FFL to transfer his full auto suppressed SBR it's definitely an ATF agent.

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  John Chang (@jchangkp) reported 22 minutes ago

  Part 2 of When technology meets traditional business. After we figured out how to generate demand, we almost destroyed the business. We built an SEO-driven website, dominated Craigslist (this was 2011), and cut quote turnaround from days to hours. Sales exploded. The problem? We had optimized customer acquisition—not operations. Orders piled up faster than we could process them. Deliveries slipped. Suppliers became frustrated. Our showroom filled with customers, but we didn't have enough salespeople to help them. Some visitors waited hours after driving across Southern California just to see us. Six months in, we did something that felt completely backwards. We shut off almost all of our marketing. For nearly two months we hired staff, rebuilt our processes, reset customer expectations, and only then turned growth back on. Luckily, the business survived, and started to re-ramp. Year 1: $750K Year 2: $1.5M Year 3: $3.5M Founders spend countless hours planning for failure. Spend some time planning for success. Your biggest risk might not be too little demand—it might be more demand than your business can deliver. #30YearsHardKnocks

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  Suprava Sabat (@Suprva02) reported 23 minutes ago

  >Be Brian Chesky >Broke designer in SF in 2008, can't pay rent >Hotels sell out for a design conference, so you rent 3 air mattresses on your floor >Track the Obama convention in Denver, 80k people flying in and zero hotel rooms, so you point the whole site at one city and bookings explode >Fly to NYC every weekend and photograph hosts' apartments yourself because the listings look terrible >Hack Craigslist so every listing cross-posts there and steal their demand for free >Keep showing up wherever demand spikes and supply runs out until Airbnb hits $100 B+ Brian Chesky is absolutely insane

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  ☘️ (@JrueLFG) reported 25 minutes ago

  @BallUpTopBrad They didn’t have a choice, Brad. They’ve shopped JB for years. Never found a good deal and other teams turned him down for their stars. This year they literally posted him on Craigslist and he sat there for weeks and that was the best offer that came back.

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  yoni rechtman (@yrechtman) reported 26 minutes ago

  @manishsinhaha @JustJake craigslist still exists! these things can stagnate but it seems like they die extremely slowly and keep being valuable on the way down...

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  UnderDuress77 (@Under_Duress77) reported 28 minutes ago

  @GambelerQuail Some rescues & shelters are too selective and some not enough I'll admit to being a part of the problem I got mine off Craigslist because no rescue would consider my hypoallergenic needs bc I didn't have a fence I dont NEED a fence the dog is on lead & accompanied at all times!

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  shredded Denim (@denimneverdies) reported 36 minutes ago

  @laurasukas I don't give a **** what they're *saying*, I care that, for example, when the government shut down adult services on Craigslist, death was the result

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  Matt James (@mattejames) reported 36 minutes ago

  In the same way that Craigslist was a generic solution to the problems better served by more tailored solutions like Airbnb, TaskRabbit, and other marketplaces.

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  Scenic Wanderer (@scenicwanderer) reported 36 minutes ago

  AI just tearing through my problems and tasks. It's so great to be bionic. "Write a Craigslist ad. Make a bill of sale. Price this item. Give me a chepear way to send a letter with tracking." I'm just laughing to myself.

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  masYNYa (@KijAkubovs86334) reported 41 minutes ago

  A solo dev opened Flutter, spent 3 weeks on it, and shipped a ride-hail app a casual user couldn't tell apart from Uber. Yellow branding. Live map. GoabX, GoabXL, GoabBike tiers with prices. Visa 4242 on file. Home, Work, Airport saved. "Confirm GoabX" button. The whole flow. Pause at 0:08. Look at the split screen. Simulator on the right running the sign-up screen. auth_screen.dart on the left — the actual Flutter source with _Chip extending StatelessWidget, _CircleBtn wrapping a GestureDetector, BoxDecoration in black and white, Icon at 17.sp. That's not a mockup. That's a shipped auth flow. What the clone has: → Flutter frontend, one codebase, iOS and Android at once → Google Maps + custom route rendering → Ride-tier chips (X / XL / Bike) → Card-on-file with Visa masking → Google + Apple + Facebook social login stubs What the clone doesn't have: → 5 million active drivers → Regulatory clearance in 10,000 cities → A $60 billion payout rail already routed → Insurance underwriters who approved the safety model → Every dispute-resolution playbook Uber wrote from 2012 to now That's the entire product. Here's what nobody in the "just clone it" space is saying out loud: the interface was never Uber's moat. The moat is a two-sided marketplace with 5 million drivers who show up at 3 AM when you tap a button. You can build the button in Flutter in 3 weeks. You can't build the 5 million drivers in 3 lifetimes. The old loop is dead: study successful app → clone the frontend → deploy on the App Store → wonder where the users went. The new loop: study successful app → identify the offline-supply moat → build the supply first → treat the app as the last 5%. The point worth arguing about: the hardest part of building an Uber isn't Uber. It's convincing a stranger with a car to log in on Tuesday at 3 AM when it's raining. Everything else is a Figma file. I know a founder who spent 18 months writing beautiful marketplace code and shipped to zero drivers. Meanwhile a friend of mine ran Craigslist ads for 2 weeks, found 40 house cleaners in one city, matched them with 60 buyers, took 15%. He didn't need a Flutter app. He had a Google Form. The interface is free. The supply is the whole company. Literally.

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  Eric McCurry (@eric_mcCurry) reported 45 minutes ago

  @RussellCartwr18 Thanks man. I'm having trouble finding the robe by itself on eBay, Mercari, and Facebook marketplace. Might try Craigslist too

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  Novara Media (@novaramedia) reported 46 minutes ago

  Ebay has been ordered to pay a $55.7m settlement to an American couple over a harassment campaign by company executives which included doxing, online threats and the delivery of live cockroaches to their home. The orchestrated campaign, which lasted for two months in the summer of 2019, was waged against husband and wife David and Ina Steiner by six eBay employees and one contractor. The couple were targeted after posting criticism of eBay’s corporate and policy changes on their newsletter and website EcommerceBytes, which is popular among eBay sellers, Wired reported. The campaign began with anonymous threats via Twitter DMs before ramping up to malicious deliveries to the Steiner family home. Items sent to the couple included pornography, a bloody pig mask, pests such as fly larvae, live spiders and cockroaches, a book about grieving a spouse and a funeral wreath. Ebay employees had the Steiners trailed in a rented van and posted fake classified ads on Craigslist advertising a ******* party, a ********* and a yard sale with their home address. After the police were contacted, the harassment campaign tailed off as those involved sought to conceal their actions. Former eBay CEO Devin Wenig told Wired via a representative that he was “saddened” by the harassment. He has continually asserted that he had no knowledge of the specific actions taken by the group who carried out the campaign. Wenig is alleged to have given former eBay chief communications officer Steve Wymer the order to “take her down,” in reference to Ina Steiner. However, his lawyers claim he was referring to a communications plan and not any criminal behaviour, a claim supported by court documents according to Wired. Six former eBay staff and a contractor were charged with taking part in the campaign in 2020. The Steiners followed with a civil suit the following year. The case has now reached a final settlement which will award the Steiners more than $46.15m from eBay, $2m from former CEO Devin Wenig, $500,000 from former executive Wendy Jones, and $50,000 from former executive Steve Wymer. David Steiner told Wired: “We were really adamant that this type of behaviour by a Fortune 500 corporation didn’t go unchecked.” In a published statement, eBay said that what the Steiners were subjected to was “wrong, reprehensible and should never have happened,” and that the company had strengthened its policies, controls and training since the incident.

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  Kevin McCallister (@realKevinP) reported 49 minutes ago

  @Shidokado1 That was terrible back then. I moved and struggled to find anyone who sold ****. Had to buy it off craigslist ads. lol terrible situations and tons of time wasted.

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  Bambxi 🦌☭𓅇 (@PunishedBambxi) reported 53 minutes ago

  Hired this guy off craigslist to fix my fountain but I'm not sure he knows what he's doing

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  Chloe Santiago (@chloe_uncut) reported 53 minutes ago

  @Queendollas24 AND YOU ABOUT TO HAVE A SCARY ENCOUNTER WITH ME NEXT! I asked you before and I’ll ask one more time. Take my photos down off Craigslist. I’m not asking again. I’m showing up next time. Sick of it!!!

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  masYNYa (@KijAkubovs86334) reported 57 minutes ago

  A solo dev opened Flutter, spent 3 weeks on it, and shipped a ride-hail app a casual user couldn't tell apart from Uber. Yellow branding. Live map. GoabX, GoabXL, GoabBike tiers with prices. Visa 4242 on file. Home, Work, Airport saved. "Confirm GoabX" button. The whole flow. Pause at 0:08. Look at the split screen. Simulator on the right running the sign-up screen. auth_screen.dart on the left — the actual Flutter source with _Chip extending StatelessWidget, _CircleBtn wrapping a GestureDetector, BoxDecoration in black and white, Icon at 17.sp. That's not a mockup. That's a shipped auth flow. What the clone has: → Flutter frontend, one codebase, iOS and Android at once → Google Maps + custom route rendering → Ride-tier chips (X / XL / Bike) → Card-on-file with Visa masking → Google + Apple + Facebook social login stubs What the clone doesn't have: → 5 million active drivers → Regulatory clearance in 10,000 cities → A $60 billion payout rail already routed → Insurance underwriters who approved the safety model → Every dispute-resolution playbook Uber wrote from 2012 to now That's the entire product. Here's what nobody in the "just clone it" space is saying out loud: the interface was never Uber's moat. The moat is a two-sided marketplace with 5 million drivers who show up at 3 AM when you tap a button. You can build the button in Flutter in 3 weeks. You can't build the 5 million drivers in 3 lifetimes. The old loop is dead: study successful app → clone the frontend → deploy on the App Store → wonder where the users went. The new loop: study successful app → identify the offline-supply moat → build the supply first → treat the app as the last 5%. The point worth arguing about: the hardest part of building an Uber isn't Uber. It's convincing a stranger with a car to log in on Tuesday at 3 AM when it's raining. Everything else is a Figma file. I know a founder who spent 18 months writing beautiful marketplace code and shipped to zero drivers. Meanwhile a friend of mine ran Craigslist ads for 2 weeks, found 40 house cleaners in one city, matched them with 60 buyers, took 15%. He didn't need a Flutter app. He had a Google Form. The interface is free. The supply is the whole company. Literally.

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  godisking (@Zone21x) reported 60 minutes ago

  Dave Ramsey breaks down how a caller got trapped in a horrible $30,000 car loan "You got screwed twice" Caller : "I owe right around 30,000 on it... I pay like 900 dollars a month" Dave: "You owe 30 and... it's worth around 20... you could put it on Craigslist and probably sell it for 25"