Craigslist status: access issues and outage reports

Problems in the last 24 hours

The graph below depicts the number of Craigslist reports received over the last 24 hours by time of day. When the number of reports exceeds the baseline, represented by the red line, an outage is determined.

Most Reported Problems

The following are the most recent problems reported by Craigslist users through our website.

• Errors (63%)
• Website Down (25%)
• Sign in (13%)

Live Outage Map

The most recent Craigslist outage reports came from the following cities:

City	Problem Type	Report Time
Aurora	Sign in	1 month ago
Oklahoma City	Website Down	1 month ago
Columbus	Errors	2 months ago
Juneau	Errors	2 months ago
Juneau	Errors	2 months ago
Allentown	Website Down	3 months ago

Full Outage Map

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Craigslist Issues Reports

Latest outage, problems and issue reports in social media:

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  The SUStronaut (@Space_Betrayal) reported 36 seconds ago

  @ABarnesandnoble NO ONE has excuses anymore when cape verde took craigslist players and ran MESSI'S ARGENTINA down to the wire. Either show up with pride and be warriors for 90 minutes or give the jersey to someone who will.

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  Nobody (@Nobody2018) reported 2 minutes ago

  @0xSwampy Wait until you try to sell something on FB Marketplace or Craigslist. The most annoying buyers are Indians, hands down. You will be amazed by the pattern of experience.

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  Juvy 🫦 (@sour_dizel) reported 2 minutes ago

  2026 is terrible!!! You can’t even go on Craigslist and find a nice used car for a private sale anymore. 😩😩😩😩

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  DontHatethe138 (@138reset) reported 7 minutes ago

  @FinPhilosopher It’s not just understanding basic Mr. fix it and carpentry. It’s when to understand when the plumber over quotes you. How to find a secret Electrician on craigslist

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  Joe Youngblood - SEO, Futurology, AI, Marketing (@YoungbloodJoe) reported 10 minutes ago

  @TheDataHubX @brivael Oh this is fun, here is mine: CJ Netmall (an ecommerce store with 'everything' via affiliate links from Amazon, LinkShare, etc...), I thought I could beat Amazon to their market expansion using their products + products from other stores by building an amalgam. - 1996 Jump Start (a 'start page' website with email login embeds, stock ticker, news ticker, etc...), I thought I could blend the best of all the big sites/services at the time on one page, but it wasn't able to be personalized because I used Tripod and didn't have a credit card to buy a domain or get hosting - 1998 [Name Redacted] (A 'fashion brand' generated by using Cafepress' iron transfer system. Sold raunchy jokes on t-shirts.) I wasn't very proud of this so when I went back to college to get my degree closed it down though we did get minor distribution throughout the Midwest. We also purchased a domain for a trucker hat brand which would probably be really popular today - 2000 Etown Underground / Forums (A couple of new media properties for my hometown of Emporia, KS. A print + digital magazine sponsored by Staples (seriously) and a web forum for citizens to talk about issues), The forum was spamme to hell and the magazine lost advertisers pretty quickly rendering it useless - 2002 Radio Revolt (a streaming internet rock station that mixed new indie music with mainstream and classic rock) - 2003 MMO Market (the first and only place where WoW players could buy and sell virtual items.), I made a grand total of like $5 from running it. Covered by most major gaming/tech media. - 2004 Dollar DBs (we scraped data from the web and sold each database in MYSQL format for $1 in an ecommerce store), It was doing great until it was hacked and I just shut it down. - 2005 1337Talk (a L33t Speak translator apparently used by teenagers and drug dealers.), The goal was harmless fun conversations for gamers. It was featured in CNN and other places for uses I did not intended. I stopped updating it and shut it down. - 2006 GamersTube (The world's first cross-compatible video sharing UGC site built for the needs of gamers with a focus on high quality video playback and a roadmap to live streaming), I tried to get investors at SXSW to believe in the concept of a live streaming site like UStream, Mogulus/LiveStream, and Justin TV + an On Demand site like YouTube built for the needs of gamers to host both long-form Machinima content and streaming eSports matches in high definition. They all said it was ridiculous. I believed in the long-term movement of video based entertainment from OTA and cable to the web-based distribution considering the gaming market to be at least a billion dollar industry alone. Google banned our Blogger blog for "spam" after it was uncovered that we had a revenue program before YouTube and also banned us from Adsense after changing the TOS to specifically forbid our website. Either an example of Convergent Evolution or something else, Twitch built nearly every single feature we built or envisioned including "Pwning", tips, and clipping just years and years later - 2006 Classified Ads Free / Kollege Ads (A network of classified ads websites that were free but made money via advertising networks.), I thought Craigslist was due for being disrupted but learned to leave the gray monster alone. We suffered a never ending and impossible to avoid barrage of spam / phishing listings and ultimate major web gatekeepers killed off traffic to our network (rightfully so) - 2007 AD FUND [never built] (With a college friend who works for a major tech company now as a higher up Senior dev, this project was designed to make it so you could sell small shares of access to your business online based on your revenue or traffic etc... and develop a secondary market for those shares.) The goal was to allow small sites/apps to get the sort of investment only big public corps or those in major VC hubs could get. My friend and partner called an SEC lawyer who told him it was illegal and we could go to prison so he quit and I am not good/smart enough to build something like that alone - 2007 ARS DFW (An art, music, events, and lifestyle blog for Dallas - Fort Worth), I built this using WordPress along with custom Javascript maps to help DFW residents find things to do like cheap drink nights or karaoke nights. IIRC the WordPress site was hacked and I just closed it down even though I still had the JS code - 2010 Nutrition Maps [launched but never adopted] (An XML based language for websites to publish nutrition data, similar to a sitemap, allowing consumer applications to easily find and use the data), I had an interested investor tell me there was no way to make money on this. SmartLabel launched in 2015 - 2011 Rent in Reverse [never launched] (Put renting consumers in the driver's seat by allowing landlords / leasing agents to bid on their target consumers by submitting offers that matched query.) I had worked in rental leasing marketing for a few years and noticed how insanely stressful it was on consumers to find a place and thought it would be great if places could bid on them. Dev partner for this project who I later found out is a cousin of a friend of mine literally moved in the middle of it to Pittsburgh and just stopped. Zillow would launch "renter profiles" 4-years later. - 2012 My New Office [only made Beta] (A website that allowed commercial landlords to post their vacancies and what it could be used for). We quickly got users including CBRE but it was just a WordPress shell as POC and I found myself working on building my own marketing agency from scratch after a falling out with my employer so I had to close it down - 2012 PR Hunters [purchased and improved] (Award winning PR software that scraped HARO queries on Twitter that needed to be filled and routed them based on keyword preferences), It was a great tool but died when Cision bought HARO and when Elon bought Twitter. Site is still live and I have plans on redeveloping it some day. - Purchased in 2014 Rocketship [client exclusive] (Our internal SEO / marketing agency software platform), The goal is to catalog all data and communications we can and streamline communications between team members and client stakeholders. - 2021 Ultimasaurus (A Chrome extension with a variety of tools to customize the desktop web including turning off AI Overviews in Google, making search ads take up less space, Eliminating spam on Google Maps, Focus Mode for getting **** done, and turning off Stories on Facebook), I use this daily for my own productivity and plan on rolling out a lot of new updates soon - 2022 Jump Links Shopify App [acquired and improved] (App that improves blogging by adding an automated TOC w/ recommended products for a low cost) - Acquired 2022 Website Announcement Bar [acquired and improved] (A quick, simple, and CWV friendly way of adding a website announcement bar to the top of your website that can be turned on or off at any time) - Acquired 2023 Advanced Spam Filter for Lead Generation [client exclusive] (A wordpress plugin + internal system to block common spammers across client profiles while ensuring 100% of actual leads come through), This solves the problem of clients not getting leads to their inbox because their email provider blacklisted their website domain/ip address. - 2024 ChatGPT Embeds for WordPress (A custom built plugin to allow simple summaries and other embeddable features for blogs/news sites) - 2025 Rocketship SEO (A plugin for WordPress designed to be a next gen toolkit that compliments current main SEO plugins such as Yoast or RankMath includes things like IndexNow, AI vs Human traffic, Redirects, AI Tools, Google Reviews, and more), I believe every website should be able to access the basics without having to pay a premium price, so we built this to do just that for the next generation. - 2025 Subscription System [still in beta but almost completed and live on the ORG] (A WordPress plugin that gives websites 2 major subscription capabilities.) Websites can offer a publication subscription that sends email alerts to users based on their settings and allows this to be a revenue source. And a work/labor subscription system with a work log and pricing tiers. All independent of Woocommerce using Stripe integration (more coming soon) - 2026 There's a lot more I haven't added like a bitcoin site that only posted peoples regrets for selling early, an online browser game called "Jelly Battle", the most popular Gmail forum signature generator (way back in the day), the most popular Free MMORPG gaming blog (made me $$$$), a handful of failed keyword tools, And several Alpha/Beta projects I may never fully launch, etc... I'll keep building until I die, but will probably never equal 1/10th of what Elon has. I was pretty darn close with GamersTube to breakaway life changing wealth though!

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  On The Right (@OnTheRightRepub) reported 13 minutes ago

  @justalexoki Find an old one on Craigslist 20+ years old or something. You can find any part and fix it as needed. My washer and dryer are not modern and every few years I spend 15-60 minutes changing some $20 parts following YouTube.

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  Jaxon (@jaxoncoder) reported 14 minutes ago

  A brother living near my house bought a used iPhone on Craigslist for $300 cash. It looked brand new. It was completely factory reset. A week later, his camera flash turned on by itself in his dark bedroom. He thought it was just a software glitch. But it was so much worse.

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  The Automotivist (@_automotivist) reported 14 minutes ago

  Bought a broken 2009 Ford Escape Hybrid off Craigslist for $3,000 in 2019. The seller was told the battery was dead. A $50 charger fixed it. Ran another five out of salvage auctions the same way. The lesson was never the arbitrage. It was that the industry survives on the buyer never asking what a thing actually costs. BMW proved it again July 1. $2,500 quietly added to the X5 M sticker. Toyota $270 across the lineup. No headline. No email. No line on the invoice that says what it used to say. Friday's issue walks the July math trim by trim.

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  bash (@mellamobash) reported 17 minutes ago

  Craigslist needs to be shut down or sold. It used to be such a good spot to find cheap cars or apartment rentals, now it’s just all fake posts.

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  🏵️Janet Knutson🏵️ (@Evening69Star) reported 19 minutes ago

  @Sarah4Texas @CurrentRevolt There really should not be a problem with this. As long as they’re not all freaks who made porn in an official RNC building and then posting it on craigslist. That should be a standard for both straight and gay people.

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  Mike Mabes (@MrMabes) reported 24 minutes ago

  @35yearoldfriend If you want to talk to me about how to start a successful handyman business with no skills I have been a self employed gig worker since I started posting ads on craigslist 22 years ago saying I would come chop down trees and labor for $8 an hour. By the end of year I charged $25

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  PeteHustle (@PeteHustle) reported 25 minutes ago

  @ausome_a @TraeyzX @Timberwolves I can imagine and with electronic flagging I bet it’s getting more difficult but that’s why you gotta switch between Ticketmaster, Gametime and StubHub and if you can sell privately and just transfer to another team email that usually helps keep the numbers down. I miss the days where you could go on craigslist, and a seller could just email you the tickets.

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  zincink (@zincink) reported 35 minutes ago

  @OmnipotentCEO @wakeupnj Well we are trying to fix Newark not tear it down. Check Craigslist for posts to recruit

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  jade (@jaddee_exe) reported 35 minutes ago

  @LunaInfernale something that my coworker thought about and told me was a Craigslist/ Facebook marketplace esc game. just buy **** boxes and stupid **** and fix it up

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  Andrew Gebo (@GeboMpls) reported 35 minutes ago

  @palmern2Twins Even if you can only afford a $5K clunker from Craigslist, you're still stuck with a depreciating and costly machine that you are completely reliant on and totally screwed if it breaks down.

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  Basil M. Gravanis (@PaleoPhotoPro) reported 36 minutes ago

  @PGC1a_RB I had a tire for a hammer swings in the backyard, but I don’t anymore. I will probably look on craigslist again in the future and get another one, because I really enjoyed that with my ‘work’ sledgehammer. The slow pulling side of things is an interesting supplement. I generally like the barefoot grounded exercise option, if I can get it. Goes very well with areas where you haven’t had to spray anything at all (persists in bare soil) because you’ve done the manual labor to clean things up with machinery or muscle strength.

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  Polsia (@polsia) reported 37 minutes ago

  Dropshipping shoes without a decent store is like selling streetwear from a Craigslist post. SoleCraft exists to fix that.

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  Hello, this is dog (Mastermk7) (@newswatchers077) reported 37 minutes ago

  @BrittanyXVenti Lol Craigslist Chrissie going to melt down.

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  Andros (@0xAndros) reported 41 minutes ago

  What a lot of people didn't know is that @samparr started 15+ businesses before selling @TheHustle for $40M. Here's how he ranks the best business models in the new AI world: S : Marketplaces "Probably the hardest to start, but the most durable." He points to Craigslist and eBay : once you get density (buyers + sellers in the same place), it's nearly impossible for a competitor to unseat you. The moat is the network effect itself. Hardest cold-start problem, but the payoff is a business that lasts decades. A : Agencies / Service Businesses "You have to deal with a lot of people issues, but they're great to start." His point is that agencies aren't the end goal :they're the learning machine. You service clients, learn their pain points intimately, and then use that intel to build products (software, courses, tools). The pivot optionality is the real value. AI systems also makes it much easier to scale agencies/services now A : Software "Anything that's really hard to get into will last probably a bit longer than another business." Public markets are discounting software right now because of AI, but his argument is that for most people there's still difficulty of entry, which equals durability. If it's hard to build, it's hard to kill. B : Events (B2B) "A lot of people are going to disagree with this." He specifically calls out B2B trade shows, less so consumer events (though Coachella made $200M+ in revenue just in 2026) There are event businesses doing hundreds of millions in revenue, very profitably. The key is B2B: you're selling access to a concentrated buyer audience, not $30 tickets. B : Media He owned The Hustle, so this is personal. "If you raise venture capital, it's going to be an F : the worst business you can have." But if you own the whole thing and run it long-term, great business. The split is ownership structure, not the model itself. VC expectations destroy media companies; bootstrap economics make them work. C : Info / Course Business He owns "copy that dot com"). "They can be great cash flow, but they're never going to be worth a lot and they're not going to scale to be very big." The ceiling is the problem. You'll make money, you just won't build generational wealth from it. C : Community He owns @HamptonFounders . "People are pain in the butt, but it's very fulfilling and it can last for 50 or 100 years." The tradeoff: constant member churn vs. extreme longevity if you keep delivering value. D : Middleman / Broker His dad owns a brokerage. "It's been an amazing living for him, but generally those are pretty hard because the margins are so small." The video about his dad's business went super viral, but the reality is razor-thin margins make it a grind. Works for one person's lifestyle, hard to scale. E/F : E-commerce "In most cases, I think that's probably the worst business model." No cash flow, tons of competition. This is the default trap most first-time entrepreneurs fall into. The through-line: durability and defensibility matter more than margins. The S and A tiers are all businesses with structural moats (network effects, switching costs, expertise). The D and F tiers are commodity businesses where you're always one competitor away from irrelevance.

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  Tyrin The Body (@TyrinLeeXXX) reported 42 minutes ago

  Story time 😈 pt 1 When i was 16 i gave my *** up for the first time for the first time to some guy I met on Craigslist. I labeled my ad as 18yr virgin hole and I included pictures. After gettin what felt like a million hits I finally settle on one. We exchanged emails and eventually texts. I explained I was a virgin and looking to take **** for the first time. He had big **** and was obviously older (at the time mid 40s) He walked me through douching via text. I remember using my Gatorade bottle from my high-school gym bag lol to clean out. Which was easy cuz I had my own bathroom in the basement (perks of being the oldest lol). My bedroom was in the basement so I would sneak out of my house through the window, pushed the car out of the drive way so It didn't make noise when I started it lol. It was about 130 am when I finally got to his house. He lived about but about 30 minutes away. I remember being so scared as I got out of my car walking up to the door of his house cuz it was Hella dark. He opened it without coming outside and I walked in. He guided me through through the house, we eventually got to a door which lead to the basement. We go down the stairs and I remember seeing an entire set up, blue lights, music, giant *** bed and giant *** mirror in front. I remember sitting on the bed. He told me to get down and come over to him, as I walk over he drops his pants and told me to suck his ****. And which i did. I remember thinking his **** was much bigger and harder then my friends (we would sometimes jerk each other in the bathroom at school during lunch). About 10 minutes goes by and he tells me to get on the bed but get on all 4s. I started tk sweat slightly cuz i was getting nervous and I remember telling him again that I was brand new to all this. Telling me to just relax, he guided my body to an all 4 position with my *** literally hanging off the bed I was thinking i was gonna fall. He then gave me a bottle (poppers) and told me to sniff lightly. I remember getting the biggest headache and then just just laid my head and chest on the bed cuz **** was spinning. *** still up, he began to eat my hole. Never in my life feeling that sensation immediately tensed up. Things still spinning but slightly less, he tells me to lightly sniff again and then lay back down head and chest to the bed. So I did and he began to eat my hole. Now I'm feeling the euphoria of it all and he begins telling me to push out. I remember being confused and asking what do you mean, he stops and he said verbatim "push like your taking a ****" He hands me the bottle, I sniff and push. I remember literally feeling his tongue slide in and out of my hole. So for about 15 minutes so I'm *** up while he "prepped" me. Then he turned me on my back and dragged me to the edge of the bed. He put a pillow under my lower back and told me to sniff lightly like I've been doing. Now getting a good look at him, I realized this was definitely an older man, but we are so far in and hes clearly into what we are doing so I brushed the idea out of my head. Still slightly being out of it from the poppers, he tells to sniff and push out. I remember feeling the head of his **** on my hole and was hard and pulsating. I remember getting hard and he started to suck my ****. Only for a slight moment and quickly became brick. Once back to position, he then told me to sniff and push. Which I did. Once I felt the head of his **** penetrate me I immediately tensed up. Him talking me through it just said relax, sniff, and push. So I attempted to relax and did as I was told. Once the head was in, it was slight movement until I felt relaxed. He stroked my hole with the head slowly and repeatedly till I opened up which didnt take long after hitting those poppers. After a few minutes he told me I was ready and he went all the way in. I remember squirming in pain for about 1 minute till it just stopped. Then pure pleasure.

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  𝕮 (@XCzsnx) reported 42 minutes ago

  The house came with a basement I didn't know about. Realtor never mentioned it, inspector never went down there, and the floor plans showed nothing. I found the door three months after moving in, hidden behind built-in shelving in the kitchen that I'd finally decided to remove. Just a normal wooden door. Unlocked. Stairs leading down into darkness. I grabbed a flashlight and went down. The basement was finished.....drywall, carpet, drop ceiling. Completely normal except for one thing. It was full of my stuff. Not similar stuff. My actual belongings. The couch I'd donated last year. My ex-girlfriend's bookshelf that she'd taken when she moved out. A TV I'd sold on Craigslist three years ago. Even weirder: things I'd lost. My high school class ring. A jacket that vanished from a bar in 2019. My dad's watch that I could've sworn I'd misplaced after his funeral. Everything was arranged like a showroom. Organized by year, it looked like. Oldest stuff near the far wall, recent stuff closer to the stairs. I grabbed the class ring, brought it upstairs. It was real. Solid gold, my initials engraved inside. That night I went back down with my phone, started taking pictures. Posted them online asking if anyone had experienced anything similar. One person responded: "Check the far corner. Behind the oldest items." I went back down. Moved the couch from 2015, the mini-fridge from college. There was another door. Newer than the first, steel reinforced. A sign on it: "KEEP OUT - FUTURE STORAGE" It was locked, but the key was hanging on a hook right next to it. Like someone wanted me to find it. I opened it. The room beyond was filled with things I don't own yet. Furniture I've never seen. Photos of people I don't recognize.....but I'm in them, older, graying at the temples. A wedding album with my name and a woman I've never met. And in the very back, a small box labeled "2043." Inside: an urn with my name on it. I'm thirty-two years old. The urn is dated eighteen years from now. There's an envelope taped to it. I haven't opened it yet. But I can see my own handwriting through the paper: "You can still change this. The door only shows probability, not certainty. But you're running out of time."

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  Sam Gorman (@gormankind) reported 44 minutes ago

  @keshavchan craigslist might be the ultimate example of this also interested in putting together a list of products that understood what made them special and doubled down on that rather than diluting

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  ًًً (@thatprettydick) reported 44 minutes ago

  i think body count matters when it comes to your environment. i know some men have hooked up with at least 100+ ****** off jackd, craigslist, grindr… he’s messed with majority of the city lmao that’s a problem. nobody wants you and that used up hole beyond just *******.

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  Varrógép (@varrogep) reported 50 minutes ago

  @JSchwarz9 What do you mean "not working". It's an app with a dumb name that's a craigslist for aparments, and they're valued at $80bn.

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  icangetemail (@icangetemail) reported 51 minutes ago

  @abandoncomfortx If you personally renovate I hope you budgeted spending a chunk of that 2-3 year timeline for tracking down your stolen tools that the **** heads and junkies posted on craigslist, filing police reports, and purchasing replacement tools

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  Brent (@Badger2084) reported 55 minutes ago

  @WallStreetApes Gonna call bullshit on this guy... quick search of craigslist in Madison, WI shows 1-br. apartments for $1,000 or so, and in job section there's a ton of food service jobs open at $15-$20 on up, plus tips. But yes, high rents are an issue for a number of reasons.

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  KuphDev (@KuphDev) reported 55 minutes ago

  @zanehengsperger Gud strat. Get the people scrolling thru craigslist trying to find deals on old cars to fix up

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  C (@0xce42) reported 57 minutes ago

  @Mossyfoxx Either fix it or sell yours on craigslist and buy a new one.

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  EyesWideOpen (@ClarityHurts) reported 57 minutes ago

  @Thedude69750960 @bradleyryder @Cryptoboyy_Aji I did NOT have a "chance." I clawed success out of the rocky ******* ground. People make their own "chance." My fiancé and I rented an in-law quarters for $500 a month. It was ONE ROOM! So we slept and crapped right next to the kitchen. We had my pickup and a banged up scooter we got off Craigslist. Most times we took the scooter. Fun times. My fiancé waited tables and I taught piano lessons afternoons and nights, which paid the bills but still didn't offer much to save. So I went to a hard money lender (which means an exhorbitant interest rate and one year to pay it back - or you get your shins broken. But no credit check.) and bought wrecked houses, fixed them up, and flipped them. It was grueling work which cost me blood, sleep, and in the end a f'd up back. But we saved enough to buy our OWN wrecked house and fixed it up. Again grueling. We had to use the gas station bathroom for a months while we rebuilt the plumbing in the "new" house. Eventually, we started a new business and phased out the piano lessons and waitressing. Now we have four kids, and life is golden. Opportunity doesn't just fall in your lap. You have to fight and claw and dig for it. But it hurts. It's much less painful to sit around making lousy excuses.

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  Cúper Y. Ashraf (@Cuuper22) reported 57 minutes ago

  @GregHBurnham I hate the gpt "reasonable/practical/useful/clean....safe" garbage. I get its use for safety, but it is so annoying as it makes the thinking paradigm soooo ngmi coated regardless of scope/topic. Like they are really good at finding potential failure modes and problems. However, it treats it as an immovable object and execuse to downscope whatever the prompt entails. For example, i asked it to retrieve and store info from a Wikipedia page that need formatting in an md file: 3 turns arguing that the page is inaccessible as the python environment it has has "no direct wikipedia to md tool" and i had to tell it which tools to do. 2 turns arguing about how the file size is large and content being long to be displayed inline, thus it won't attempt it and it provided a" cleaner script for you to run on your machine". And some turns to get it to do basic data processing as it kept falling beck to try to "verify from online" if the generated processing was accurate or not and when it couldn't it just stops to tell me it didn't do any work because of that, fyi, the data in question was simply <100 rows and the processing is just getting median and mean of the entries for some wc stuff. So not a sophisticated LHC calibration and testing data. Fallback to certainty is ok. The issie is it also happens on another end. Like I asked it (codex here) to view craigslist ads for some housing and so and filter based on some criteria. For some reason, it felt like it needed smoke tests, ledgers, evidence packets, and deployment pipeline with robust standard, which wasted the token limit for an incomplete final output. You would ask for "find me good shoes to use for hiking XYZ mountain" it will tunnle vision to shoes exciplicitly associated with mt XYZ, if not found, it starts to downscope to regular shoes. Where if it had only looked for hiking shoes then eliminated due to to XYZ specifics.